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Thomas Dilworth

Thomas Dilworth, our earliest Quaker ancestor that we can be sure of.
Married three times.
(I have used a combination of the quaker registers to work out some of the names and dates.)
I think he had 16 children altogether.
Presenting the information here in the form of a timeline.
Please check my maths - I often make mistakes.
Dates are given as recorded.

RG6/1004 MM Lancaster
(entry follows the marriage of James Dilworth on 9.5.1680)
Thos Dillworth of Bradley Hall in the parish of Chipping & Sarah Pearson of (???Disenwait) in ye parish of Wiggton, County of Cumberland married in the house of John Read of Laugthwait, Parish of Wiggton 23.5.1680
witnesses
John Houne?
John ffareson?
Henry Coward
John Key?
Auth Randell
Thos Tomplinson
David Palmer
John Seenal?
John Wilhamson?
James Hill
Tho. ffmay?
John Richardson
Jane Pearson
Mary Harrison
Jane Adamson
El Adamson
Ann Goad?
with others

RG6/1616A QM Lancashire
birth Hannah Dillworth daughter of Thomas 26.5.1681
birth Jennet Dillworth daughter of Thomas of Bradley Hall 27.1.1684
burial Sarah Dillworth wife of Tho. of Bradley Hall buryed at Newton 16.4.1687
So after nearly 7 years of marriage Thomas was left a widower with two small girls, Hannah nearly 6 and Jennet 3.

(second marriage)
Thomas Dillworth of Bradley & Mary Townson of Morehead
house of Jennet Bond of Woodaker
7.3.1689
witnesses
John Dillworth
Clement Parker
Thomas Bond
John Battersby
Alexd Salisbury
Timothy Cragg
John Prockter
George Jepson
Sarah Townson
Lydia Townson
Susannah Parker
Jennet Bond
and others

When he married Mary. Daughters Hannah would be nearly 8, and Jennet 5.
RG6/1210
John Dilworth son of Thomas & Mary was born the 16 of 11 month 1691
Sarah Dilworth daughter of Thomas & Mary was born the 27 day of 10th month 1692
Mary Dilworth daughter of Thomas & Mary was born the first day of the 9 month 1694
??oraty daughter of Thomas Dilworth & Mary was born 25 day of 11 month 1696/7
Lydia Dilworth daughter of Thomas & Mary of Morehead in Wiersdale was born the fourth day of 5th month 1699

Jennet Dilworth daughter of Thomas Dilworth by his first wife of Morehead in Wiersdale died the 13th day of the 5th month & was buried the 15th of the same at Lancaster in the yeare 1699.
(Jennet would have been 15)
Mary Dilworth wife of Thomas Dilworth of Morehead in Wiersdale died the 22d of the 12 month and was buried the 24th of the same in ye yeare 1699/70 buried at Lancaster.
So Thomas is a widower with children Hannah 17, John 8, Sarah 7, Mary 5, Dorathy? 3 and baby Lydia 7 months.

(I have not found any other references to Dorathy?, it is possible she may have died. So I shall leave her   out hereafter.)

RG6/1210
Th.....worth of Wiersdale & Ann Driver married att John Bonds of Dunishaw 15 March 1704
witnesses
William Berket or Becket Junior
Thomas Wright
Elizabeth Winder
Sarah Knowles
Isabell Neales or Wales or Berket?

At this time, Hannah would be about 21, John about 12, Sarah 11, Mary 9, Lydia nearly 5 (brains getting tired need to think about the ages again - confusing with the old dates)
So Ann was taking on quite a family. This was her second marriage and I think (only think, she may have had a son John Driver born 1699, so he would have been the same age as Lydia)

Again from RG6/1210
Hannah Dilworth Daughter of Thomas Dilworth of Morehead in Wiersdale departed this life the 3d of 4th month & was buried the 5th of the same at Lancaster in the yeare 1705
(Hannah was nearly 24)
William Dilworth son of Thomas & Ann of Morehead in Wiersdale was born the 10th of the 10th month in the year 1705 (his birth is not recorded in RG6/1616A)
Hannah Dilworth Daughter  of Thomas & Ann of Morehead in Wiersdale was born the 9th of 3d month in the yeare 1707
Hannah Dilworth Daughter of Thomas & Ann his 3d wife died the 22d of 3d month & was buried 1707 (Hannah was about two weeks old)
Jennet Dilworth Daughter of Thomas & Ann his wife of Morehead in Wiersdale was born the 26th of 2d month in the yeare 1708
Elizabeth Dilworth daughter of Thomas & Ann his wife of Morehead in Wreydale was born ye 4th of 7 mon in ye year 1710
Ann Dilworth Daughter of Thomas & Ann his wife of Morehead was born 14th of 3d month in the year 1712
Ann Daughter of Thomas Dilworth & Ann his wife died the 24th & buried the 26th of 3d month at Lancaster in the yeare 1712 (Ann was about 10 days old)
Elizabeth Daughter of Thomas Dilworth & Ann his wife of Morehead dies the 19th & buried the 20th of 11th month 1712. Note she was buried inour meeting house in Wiersdale (Elizabeth was about 2 years old)
Thomas Dilworth son of Thomas & Ann his wife was Born the 16th of 8th month in the yeare
1713
James Dilworth son of Thomas & Ann his wife was Born the 2d of 3d month in the year 1716
James Dilworth son of Thomas & Ann his wife of Morehead died the 12th of 3d month & was buried the 14 of the same in our meeting house yard in the yeare 1716. (James was about 10 days old)
James Dilworth son of Thomas & Ann his wife was Born the 5th day of 2 month in the year 1717
Ann Dilworth Daughter of Thomas & Ann his wife was Born the 15th 4th month in the yeare 1719
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So to recap
Thomas Dilworth m 1680 Sarah Pearson
Hannah Dilworth 1681 - 1705
Jennet Dilwoth 1684 - 1699
Thomas Dilworth m 1689 Mary Townson
John Dilworth 1691
Sarah Dilworth 1692
Mary Dilworth 1694
Dorathy? Dilworth 1696/7
Lydia Dilworth 1699
Thomas Dilworth m 1704 Ann Corles
William Dilworth 1705
Hannah Dilworth 1707 - 1707
Jennet Dilworth 1708
Elizabeth Dilworth 1710 - 1712
Ann Dilworth 1712 - 1712
Thomas Dilworth 1713
James Dilworth 1716 - 1716
James Dilworth 1717
Ann Dilworth 1719
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Early Quaker Dilworths

Some weeks ago I visited John and Margaret. I had a really good day, from the bus ride along Hyde Road (passing Ardwick Green where some early Quakers lived, and Ardwick cemetery (now playing fields) where John Dalton the Quaker scientist was buried) to meeting really nice people, very welcoming and kind. I immediately felt right at home amongst fellow book lovers. However, as usual too exciting I don't think I was very coherent. They showed me three documents all connected to the Dilworth family - perhaps they didn't realise how special I thought they all were. I didn't look at the book of writing by Alice - not because I wasn't interested but I was overwhelmed, and also by an immense feeling of sadness for Alice. I would like to find out more about her. A letter concerning William Dilworth's resignation from the Quakers - has got me thinking. I had assumed (my usual failing) that William's marriage to a nonquaker had been the reason, but it might have been because of his own religious beliefs. And the marriage document for John Jackson Dilworth - oh heaven of course I have seen the record of this marriage in the registers but this answered a question I long asked myself - if for later marriages they still had the witnessing of the marriage by the people present. Yes. And the couple kept that document. So here was the very piece handled by them, kept and treasured by them. Here were the actual signatures. I am working on identifying the relations named - still struggling with two of them Robt Hall and Richard Tounley. And I will post later on the marriage witnesses.

One of the relations is James Dillworth. I returned to a site all about Quakers by Mr Charles E G Pease. I have often visited it over the years - it is one of my favorite places and I call it the pennyghael site. He has researched many lines including the Dillworths of Lancaster. For some unknown reason I could no longer access this file so I plucked up courage and made contact by email. Thank you, so much, he sent me the Dillworth file attached to an email so I could check it. I am afraid I am quite lazy - and often use his information to remind myself of links between the families as well as immersing myself in so much interesting information. Anyway to get on, this has led me to look again at the early Dilworth family, and before I misplace it all again I'm going to be good and type it up here.

The marriage of John Jackson Dilworth was in 1821, I believe the James Dillworth was his uncle born 1747 and died 1826.

The Quaker records for Over Wyresdale and the Lancaster area generally, I find quite difficult to read, and in particular there is a Quarterly Meeting book where the dates are not easy to distinguish. Not all the records have survived and some are only found in the Quarterly records. There are many loose ends still to be followed up. So please regard this as a work in progress. Dilworth is found spelt with one or two Ls, even when referring to the same person.

Our Dilworth tree is in "A Victorian Quaker Courtship" by John D Abbatt. I am definitely NOT questioning his work. I am just trying to understand the tree more for myself, in finding the original information. There are many trees online about Dilworths which have interpreted the early parish records in different ways - we have no way of knowing for definite. There is possibly more information to be discovered in old records in say the records office but I know from the little I have looked at that it won't be me that's finding it - I cannot read the very old writing nor understand legalities, for example with property or the court. But it is important to recognise that in future some other information might come to light which could change he way we interpret the records today.

Firstly our line back from John Jackson Dilworth.
RG6/1623 QM Lancashire
First Day, First Month called January 1786, born in Wyersdale
unto William Dillworth and Mary a son named John Jackson
Witnesses Betty Martin, Ellin Kelsall

marriage of his parents
RG6/0518 MM Lancaster
William Dillworth son of James Dillworth of Wyersdale, Husbandman and Elizabeth
and Mary Jackson daughter of John Jackson of Wyersdale, Husbandman and Ann
Eighth day, Third month called March 1785 at MH Lancaster
witnesses
Elizabeth Barrow
Hannah Jackson
William Jepson
Thos Albright
Henry Kendal
Thos Frankland
Henry Jepson
Ann Jepson
Dorothy Drape
Jane Shelton?
Ann Mckand
Bridget Whalley
Richard Birket
William Wade
George Barrow
Betty  Marton (her mark)
Spencer Abbat
Sarah Routh
Mary Knowles
Hannah Jepson Jun
Mary Beakbane Jun
Mary Jepson Jun
Relations
Thos Dillworth
Eliza Dillworth
James Dillworth
Margt  Dillworth (her mark)
Thos Kelsall
Jane Brewer
William Kelsall
William Bannister
Salley Bannister
William Dillworth

birth of William
RG6/1616A QM Lancashire
William & Sarah Dillworth son & dau of James & Eliza Dillworth of Wyersdale 10th of 1st mo 1761

marriage of James Dillworth and Elizabeth not found.
first child registered in Quaker records Thomas born 1740.
This is a weak link.
From RG6/821 MM Lancaster burials
buried at Wyersdale, grave maker Joseph Kelsall
James Dillworth of Quarmore aged about sixty nine
died second day fifth month called May 1786
This would give him a birth year of 1717.

birth of James
RG6/1210 MM Lancaster
(James) Dilworth, son of Thomas & Ann his wife was Born the 5th day of 2 month 1717

marriage of Thomas and Ann
RG6/1210 MM
Tho...worth of Wiersdale & Ann Driver
att John Bonds of Dunishaw
15 March 1704
witnesses
William Berket or Becket Junior
Thomas Wright
Elizabeth Winder
Sarah Knowls
Isabell (Neals or Wales or Berket?)

(This was Ann's second marriage - she had been married to James Driver, and her maiden name was Corles. This was Thomas's third marriage).

There is no Quaker record of the birth of Thomas Dilworth.
However, no parish record for Thomas Dilworth has been found either.

To recap -
John Jackson Dilworth born 1786 son of
William Dilworth born 1761 son of
James Dilworth born 1717 son of
Thomas Dilworth.

Just a quick update as to what I am up to. My resolution for 2016 is to try to be more organized with family history and try to let people know what I am up to. (For personal reasons this is quite difficult for me.)
So I am still hooked on family history and the history of our ancestors lives. I do either family history or    background reading every day but I am very disorganized and jump about from one thing to another - but this works for me and by going off at random tangents I have found much interesting information. I am limited to getting to places to do hands on research.
I am interested in all my ancestors but the quakers have left much documentation behind and a lot of research into the families has already been published and this makes it easier and very interesting as background information not available otherwise can be found.
General quaker history has become a focus of interest - this is what I have been thinking about for a long time and still not resolved - how much did quaker history influence national history (religious, political, social, economic) or reflect national history? Previously I had no idea of the importance of the Quakers (a relatively small % of the population).
The Wilcocksons remain of interest but I have been following more two of the wives which has led to an explosion of the extended tree. I had wondered how they made the leap from farming (with perhaps cottage industry on the side) to shoe making and then to the hat industry. I have no proof this, it is just my own conclusion that Isaac who went to Wray in Lancashire learnt the shoe business from one of his mothers relations (possible Thomas her brother?) and that he made a most fortunate marriage to Mary Gilpin. Her family had been in business. Her line has led to very early connection to the Quakers - the Wilcocksons came relatively late. Topics of interest shearmen dyers of Kendal, Coalbrookdale and the Iron Bridge (Mark Gilpin clerk to Derby family), the Dodgson family of Crook links to Carr water biscuits in Carlisle, part of the Gilpin family went to Bristol. The MP Charles Gilpin and another later Gilpin MP. One of the questions I have in mind is how much of the family when it moved away was known to other branches and part of this was answered when I found a link between one of Isaac's (the shoemaker of Wray) grandsons and this Charles Gilpin. There are also possible links to the Cadbury family, and the Crosfield family of Warrington - Persil (and a feud with Port Sunlight?) Perhaps through his mothers relations David Wilcockson recieved financial backing and business knowledge?
to set up his hat business.
Then David himself married Esther Satterthwaite. The Satterthwaites are a fascinating but frustrating family to research. We can go right back knowing they lived in Hawkshead parish into medieval times. Hawkshead has been of interest to others who have kindly left books for us to read on its history - and its connection to Wordsworth also made it of interest. Of interest here the Abbey at Furness and its dissolution must have had a profound effect on our ancestors lives and prospects (thank you Henry VIII). But it is difficult to identify the different Satterthwaite families. Interesting links here to emigration to America, London, MP John Bright (of Rochdale), the Quaker Rimington family of Penrith,  the leather industry (Preston and Manchester), Ireland and the Hoare family - gentry, military and church of England people of note, the London Stock Exchange.
The history of places has become more interesting - even if our people are not named they lived there and experienced the same lives. Colthouse and Hawkshead, Kendal, Lancaster, Preston, Manchester, Warrington, and London.
Of course Manchester is of particular interest to me - knowing I'm walking in their footsteps. A Satterthwaite lived in Salford when he married. A Satterthwaite lived at Strangeways Hall (now the site of Strangeway Prison). I am slowly slowly learning about the Quakers in Manchester not a lot seems to have been written about them as a connection to Manchester. And when I go to the library I always say hello to MP John Bright's statue in Albert Square. There were several Quaker homes within 15 min walk of where I live. The Quaker meeting house was used by some of the victims of the Peterloo massacre. There was a split in the Quaker movement in Britain in the 1830s known as the Beacon controversy. Quakers definitely left their mark on Manchester - Bradshaw of the railway guides, Waterhouse the architect, John Dalton the scientist. For many years we have stood on platform 14, Piccadilly Station looking over at he deserted Mayfield station. There was a huge calico printing works there long ago called Mayfield, owned by the Hoyle family. William Satterthwaite married into this family and lived near there.
So you never know what you will find out next.