Sunday 16 August 2020
sorry
Well between the last post and this, blogger has changed its layout and how it works. I am typing this under the old version (but even that has altered) which is being withdrawn in September. But it does not work on my computer and as I am hopeless with computers I am not going to be able to use it anymore.
Thursday 30 July 2020
David Wilcockson 1819
Well after spending all that time typing up the previous post - all that info I had already included under John Wilcockson.
What was Manchester like in the 1830s?
The Quakers in Manchester at that time very interesting.
The Quaker meeting house was involved in the aftermath of Peterloo in 1819. Soldiers entered the meeting house and attacked protesters, their blood stained the floor. The meeting house was replaced by a larger meeting house in the early 1830s (check date?) it is different to the smaller plain meeting houses. It has a grand entrance with columns - money given for the building by Isaac Crewdson?
Quakers in Manchester businessmen were mixing with other denominations. In America Elias Hicks had caused a split in the Quakers, in reply to that situation Isaac Crewdson in Manchester published A Beacon to the Society of Friends in 1835 and that led to many Quakers leaving the society. It even split families. It must have been a talking point for all Quakers.
The famous scientist Quaker John Dalton(1766-1844) was based in Manchester.
Family links to Manchester through the Satterthwaite family. Going back to Esther Satterthwaite who married David Wilcockson. Two of her brothers and two nephews removed to Manchester. We also relate to Michael Satterthwaite who came to Salford. There were Quaker tea dealers in Manchester. One was William Labrey.
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Also from google books
West Riding election 1849
page 379 Bradford
Wakefield polling district
Wilcockson David, Preston 2
Evidence of expanding cotton mill.
Expanding his home.
Quakers and slavery
Google books -
The Bankers Magazine Vol 26 1866
Mercantile suspensions
Suspension of Mr D. Wilcockson of Preston, manufacturer, with debts between £15,000 and £20,000.
The fact that he went on to Lytham and did not seem to loose his social status or go to debtors prison suggests to me that the family helped out with his debts but thats only a guess.
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The move to Lytham
Seaside resorts were developing for well to do people. An opportunity to make money whilst keeping up social status. The following found on google books using the advance search full books - searching for Lytham Wilcockson.
The earliest connection from "The life boat" shows donations and subscriptions for various life boat branches. It looks like 1864 for Lytham Branch Wilcockson Esq Preston paid £1 1s. (Which Wilcockson might this be?)
search on google for Lytham Pier Company will give you a link to amoundrness.co.uk
It tells us that at the first meeting of the shareholders of the Lytham Pier Company among the directors were Mr D. Wilcockson and Mr M Satterthwaite (The Preston Guardian 9 April 1864).
The book "Seaside watering places" published 1876 has a lovely description of Lytham and its intention to be an exclusive destination.
"There are no house agents in Lytham strictly speaking, but Mr Clarke of Lytham and Kirkham Times office, and Mr David Wilcockson, Church-road, will at all times furnish information of houses to let. Of hotels there are several, two first class, the Clifton and the Ship, which, for good living and moderate charges, cannot be excelled."
In the British Friend Vol 27-28 David is advertising from 1869 to 1870
LYTHAM-APARTMENTS
D. Wilcockson
CLIFTON HOUSE, WEST BEACH
Fronting the sea
HOT AND COLD BATH ON PREMISES
search on google for Lytham Pier Company will give you a link to amoundrness.co.uk
It tells us that at the first meeting of the shareholders of the Lytham Pier Company among the directors were Mr D. Wilcockson and Mr M Satterthwaite (The Preston Guardian 9 April 1864).
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from lan opc site
I think this might be William Dilworths illegitimate daughter
I did look at her some time age, as usual can't find the notes I made but I think she went on to have a family.
St Oswald Warton Nr Lancaster
bap. 19 Jan 1823 Isabella Marshall dau. of Dorothy Marshall, single woman born 23 Dec 1822.
She would have been David's first cousin.
Here are a few of my thoughts on the life of David Wilcockson. These are my own ideas and so not necessarily correct. In particular I am not an expert on Quaker history and as I find out more I have revised my opinions several times and may alter my views in the future. I think to try to put Davids life in focus we must start with his upbringing.
The Wilcockson family in Preston was close to the Satterthwaite family in Preston.
His father John Wilcockson was born in 1792 in Preston.
in 1802 John went to Ackworth age 10 with his first cousin Samuel Satterthwaite of Preston.
They both left Ackworth in 1806 when John was 14
(Samuel Satterthwaite moved to Manchester. His only son George Satterthwaite was later superintendent of Ackworth)
John grew up during the Napoleonic wars.
He had a certificate from Preston Meeting dated 3 July 1815 as an introduction to Southwark Meeting in London. (His older brother Isaac had gone to London in 1804.)
The battle of Waterloo 18 June 1815. I wonder what London was like at this time.
The battle of Waterloo 18 June 1815. I wonder what London was like at this time.
1816 was the year without a summer, what was that like to live through.
3.6.1818 John married Jane Dilworth, he was described as hat manufacturer of Preston. So he followed his father.
DAVID WILCOCKSON born 10.3.1819 Preston
1820 William Dilworth Wilcockson born in Preston
FRP/15/48 Disownment notices
12 July 1821 Jane Nichols, nee Wilcockson for conduct of a very reproachful nature.
Jane was John's sister. David's aunt.
FRP/15/48 Disownment notices
12 July 1821 Jane Nichols, nee Wilcockson for conduct of a very reproachful nature.
Jane was John's sister. David's aunt.
1822 Isaac Wilcockson born in Preston
1823 Mary Anne Wilcockson born in Preston
May 1824 William Dilworth Wilcockson buried in Preston age 3 years, David was 5
September 1824 John's father, David's grandfather David Wilcockson died at Preston.
1824 QSB1/1825/Jan/Pt1/3 (Lancashire record office - catalogue)
26 Oct 1824
William Dilworth tenant of 31 Market place Preston, tea dealer to appear as reputed father and abide by such order as shall be made concerning the bastard child of Dorothy Marshall of Walton with Lindeth, single woman.(see note at bottom)
This was Janes brother, Davids Uncle. William protested his innocence.
FRP/14/48 11 Mar 1825
William Dilworth, Preston to Michale Satterthwaite, Preston - appeal against charge of bastardy.
This was the William that went to America.
FRP/15/53 Disownment notices
10 May 1825 William Dilworth for bastardy
1824 QSB1/1825/Jan/Pt1/3 (Lancashire record office - catalogue)
26 Oct 1824
William Dilworth tenant of 31 Market place Preston, tea dealer to appear as reputed father and abide by such order as shall be made concerning the bastard child of Dorothy Marshall of Walton with Lindeth, single woman.(see note at bottom)
This was Janes brother, Davids Uncle. William protested his innocence.
FRP/14/48 11 Mar 1825
William Dilworth, Preston to Michale Satterthwaite, Preston - appeal against charge of bastardy.
This was the William that went to America.
FRP/15/53 Disownment notices
10 May 1825 William Dilworth for bastardy
1826 James Wilcockson born Preston
27.5.1828 James Wilcockson died at Bolton le Moors age 2 buried at Preston, David was 9
17 June 1828 David's mother Jane Wilcockson was disowned because of drink.
As Richard pointed out the disownment followed quickly after she had lost two of her children, but also there had been the departure and the scandal of her brother William. Had they been close? He had lived in Preston. What was it like for Jane to leave her country home to come and live in the towns? Preston was a gentile town when David Wilcockson the hatter came in the 18th century but it grew into a dirty industrial town. It is said Charles Dickens partly based Coketown in his novel Hard Times on Preston which he visited in the 1850s. I think all this points to a not so happy home for David.
David would have been old enough to be aware of what was going on.
1828 John Wilcockson and his children David, Isaac and Mary Ann moved to Todmorden meeting.
1829 Edward Wilcockson born at Great Bolton, buried age 3 months.
1829 David went to Ackworth, his residence given as Little Bolton, age 10 he left in 1833.
He was there the same time as Robert Greenough of Little Bolton who left in 1832. Were they friends? His brother Isaac of Preston was at Ackworth 1830-35, and sister Mary Ann Wilcockson of Preston 1833-37.
5 May 1831 John Wilcockson and children returned to Preston meeting.
Preston Chronicle July 14 1838 THUNDER-STORM
Preston - Notwithstanding the violence of the storm, and the terrific character of the thunder and lightning which occurred yesterday week, we have not heard of any very serious result in this town. Between eight and nine o'clock in the evening, the house of Mr. John Wilcockson, coach proprietor, of Peel-hall Farm, near the House of Recovery, was struck by the electric fluid. It entered the chimney, and then forced its way through the wall into a ground floor apartment, where it tore the mantle-piece from the wall, shattered the chimney ornaments, and caused some other trifling damage. The kitchen door being fortunately open, the destructive element passed out through it without doing further injury. Mrs. Wilcockson and her niece were in the kitchen at the time the lightning passed through, but it providentially passed between them.
Preston Chronicle July 14 1838 THUNDER-STORM
Preston - Notwithstanding the violence of the storm, and the terrific character of the thunder and lightning which occurred yesterday week, we have not heard of any very serious result in this town. Between eight and nine o'clock in the evening, the house of Mr. John Wilcockson, coach proprietor, of Peel-hall Farm, near the House of Recovery, was struck by the electric fluid. It entered the chimney, and then forced its way through the wall into a ground floor apartment, where it tore the mantle-piece from the wall, shattered the chimney ornaments, and caused some other trifling damage. The kitchen door being fortunately open, the destructive element passed out through it without doing further injury. Mrs. Wilcockson and her niece were in the kitchen at the time the lightning passed through, but it providentially passed between them.
The Blackburn Standard. 27 Feb 1839
(Death) Jane wife of John WIlcockson coach proprietor, Peel Hall Preston.
David age 20.
14 Jan 1841 David Wilcockson returned to Preston from Manchester meeting. David age about 22
His brother Isaac returned from Manchester 14 Sept 1843.
What were they doing in Manchester? On the census a couple of months later in 1841 David was a tea dealer. Did they serve apprenticeships with tea dealers in Manchester?
I still have not decided whether John, David's father was actually the driver of the coaches. If he was then he would have been away from home plenty. It seems to me that David had an unsettled childhood. As the oldest child probably aware of his mothers troubles and the deaths of his younger siblings.
I still have not decided whether John, David's father was actually the driver of the coaches. If he was then he would have been away from home plenty. It seems to me that David had an unsettled childhood. As the oldest child probably aware of his mothers troubles and the deaths of his younger siblings.
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What was Manchester like in the 1830s?
The Quakers in Manchester at that time very interesting.
The Quaker meeting house was involved in the aftermath of Peterloo in 1819. Soldiers entered the meeting house and attacked protesters, their blood stained the floor. The meeting house was replaced by a larger meeting house in the early 1830s (check date?) it is different to the smaller plain meeting houses. It has a grand entrance with columns - money given for the building by Isaac Crewdson?
Quakers in Manchester businessmen were mixing with other denominations. In America Elias Hicks had caused a split in the Quakers, in reply to that situation Isaac Crewdson in Manchester published A Beacon to the Society of Friends in 1835 and that led to many Quakers leaving the society. It even split families. It must have been a talking point for all Quakers.
The famous scientist Quaker John Dalton(1766-1844) was based in Manchester.
Family links to Manchester through the Satterthwaite family. Going back to Esther Satterthwaite who married David Wilcockson. Two of her brothers and two nephews removed to Manchester. We also relate to Michael Satterthwaite who came to Salford. There were Quaker tea dealers in Manchester. One was William Labrey.
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Also from google books
West Riding election 1849
page 379 Bradford
Wakefield polling district
Wilcockson David, Preston 2
Evidence of expanding cotton mill.
Expanding his home.
Quakers and slavery
Google books -
The Bankers Magazine Vol 26 1866
Mercantile suspensions
Suspension of Mr D. Wilcockson of Preston, manufacturer, with debts between £15,000 and £20,000.
The fact that he went on to Lytham and did not seem to loose his social status or go to debtors prison suggests to me that the family helped out with his debts but thats only a guess.
.................................................................................................................................
The move to Lytham
Seaside resorts were developing for well to do people. An opportunity to make money whilst keeping up social status. The following found on google books using the advance search full books - searching for Lytham Wilcockson.
The earliest connection from "The life boat" shows donations and subscriptions for various life boat branches. It looks like 1864 for Lytham Branch Wilcockson Esq Preston paid £1 1s. (Which Wilcockson might this be?)
search on google for Lytham Pier Company will give you a link to amoundrness.co.uk
It tells us that at the first meeting of the shareholders of the Lytham Pier Company among the directors were Mr D. Wilcockson and Mr M Satterthwaite (The Preston Guardian 9 April 1864).
The book "Seaside watering places" published 1876 has a lovely description of Lytham and its intention to be an exclusive destination.
"There are no house agents in Lytham strictly speaking, but Mr Clarke of Lytham and Kirkham Times office, and Mr David Wilcockson, Church-road, will at all times furnish information of houses to let. Of hotels there are several, two first class, the Clifton and the Ship, which, for good living and moderate charges, cannot be excelled."
In the British Friend Vol 27-28 David is advertising from 1869 to 1870
LYTHAM-APARTMENTS
D. Wilcockson
CLIFTON HOUSE, WEST BEACH
Fronting the sea
HOT AND COLD BATH ON PREMISES
search on google for Lytham Pier Company will give you a link to amoundrness.co.uk
It tells us that at the first meeting of the shareholders of the Lytham Pier Company among the directors were Mr D. Wilcockson and Mr M Satterthwaite (The Preston Guardian 9 April 1864).
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from lan opc site
I think this might be William Dilworths illegitimate daughter
I did look at her some time age, as usual can't find the notes I made but I think she went on to have a family.
St Oswald Warton Nr Lancaster
bap. 19 Jan 1823 Isabella Marshall dau. of Dorothy Marshall, single woman born 23 Dec 1822.
She would have been David's first cousin.
Friday 24 July 2020
Mary Anne Wilcockson
This is the information for Mary Anne sister of David and Isaac Wilcockson.
She remained a Quaker.
from Lancashire BMD site.
Marriage 1848 Preston Meeting House
Thomas Ord and Anne Wilcockson
Births
1848 Ellen Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1850 Michael Satterthwaite Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1853 John Henry Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1855 Mary Esther Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1857 Emily Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1858 Clement Ord (Preston)(Wilcockson)
1860 Marian Ord(Preston)(Wilcockson)
1862 William Edward Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1865 Michael Satterthwaite Ord(Preston)(Wilcockson)
Deaths
1852 Ellen Ord age 3
Michael Satterthwaite Ord age 2
1856 Mary Esther Ord age 0
1857 Emily Ord age 0
1866 Michael Satterthwaite Ord age 0
1871 Thomas Ord age 48
1872 Mary Ann Ord age 48
Probate 1871
under £6,000
Thomas Ord late of Preston and Fulwood, Currier died 24 Jan 1871
probate to Alfred Fryer of Whimslow, sugar refiner
Mary Anne Ord of Fuelwood, widow, relict
John Satterthwaite of Preston, currier and leather merchant
Probate 1872
under £1,500
Mary Anne Ord late of Freehold Park, Fulwood widow died 26 April 1872
probate to John Satterthwaite of Preston Leather Merchant
Hannah Ord of Rawden near Leeds Spinster
both Thomas and Mary Anne Ord deaths are recorded in The Annual Monitor, so they remained Quakers.
Newspaper notices
The Blackburn Standard Wed. May 10 1848
Same day (Thursday last), at the Friend's Meeting House, Preston, Thomas Ord to Mary Anne, only daughter of John Wilcockson, all of Preston.
All the following from The Preston Guardian
Feb 14 1852
On Wednesday last, Michael Satterthwaite, only son of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 2 years
Feb 21 1852
On Monday last, Ellen, eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 3 years
March 22 1856
On Thursday last, very suddenly, Mary Esther, youngest daughter of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 12 months.
Jan 28 1871
On the 24th instant, at the Park, Fuelwood, Mr. Thomas Ord, leather merchant, aged 48 years.
census 1851
9 Friargate Preston
Thos Ord 29 Leather cutter born Durham, Darlington
Mary Anne 27 born Preston
Ellen 2 " "
Michael Satterthwaite 1 " "
Elizh Hill 32 servant
Alice Tipping 11 servant
1861
9 Friargate Preston
Thomas Ord 39 Currier master 44 men & 2 boys born Darlington
Mary A 37 born Preston
Sarah J 9 " "
John H 8 " "
Clement 2 " "
Johanna Dilworth 24 servant
Catherine Etherington 21 servant
1871
Watling St. Fulwood Preston Broughton
Mary Anne Ord 47 annuitant born Preston
Sarah Jane 19 " " "
John Henry 18 leather dealers assistant "
William Edward 8 " "
Jane Clarke 24 servant
I am not sure about Sarah Jane - she is on Lancs BMD births as
1851 Sarah Jane Ord (Preston)(Ord)
Is it a mistake in indexing?
1871
Lancaster
Clement Ord 12 boarder scholar born Preston with other scholars under George Aldridge 29 schoolmaster
1881
Ackworth
Clement Ord 22 student born Preston
probate 1940
£10,019 10s 1d
Clement Ord of Athehey Ga? All Saints road, Clifton Bristol died 20 Oct 1939
probate to Rudolf Ord leather merchant
Bernhard Ort fellow of Kings College Cambridge
William Henry Satterthwaite, solicitor
death reg. Clement Ord (1859) DecQ 1939 age 80 Bristol
Cambridge University Alumni
Clement Ord d. 20 Oct 1939 entered Michs. 1881 Matric Non-Coll Michs. 1881 (son of Thomas, of Fulwood, Preston) Schools - Preston Grammar, Friends' School Lancaster, Hitching School. Flounder's Inst, Ackworth. Migrated to King's Jan 26 1882 Exhibitioner 1883, BA 1884, MA 1888. Assistant Master at Hitching school 1875-9, In Germany 1886-91, Assistant Lecturer in German, University College Bristol 1895-1902, Lecturer 1902- 9, Head of German Dept. Bristol University 1909-25.
She remained a Quaker.
from Lancashire BMD site.
Marriage 1848 Preston Meeting House
Thomas Ord and Anne Wilcockson
Births
1848 Ellen Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1850 Michael Satterthwaite Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1853 John Henry Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1855 Mary Esther Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1857 Emily Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1858 Clement Ord (Preston)(Wilcockson)
1860 Marian Ord(Preston)(Wilcockson)
1862 William Edward Ord (Preston) (Wilcockson)
1865 Michael Satterthwaite Ord(Preston)(Wilcockson)
Deaths
1852 Ellen Ord age 3
Michael Satterthwaite Ord age 2
1856 Mary Esther Ord age 0
1857 Emily Ord age 0
1866 Michael Satterthwaite Ord age 0
1871 Thomas Ord age 48
1872 Mary Ann Ord age 48
Probate 1871
under £6,000
Thomas Ord late of Preston and Fulwood, Currier died 24 Jan 1871
probate to Alfred Fryer of Whimslow, sugar refiner
Mary Anne Ord of Fuelwood, widow, relict
John Satterthwaite of Preston, currier and leather merchant
Probate 1872
under £1,500
Mary Anne Ord late of Freehold Park, Fulwood widow died 26 April 1872
probate to John Satterthwaite of Preston Leather Merchant
Hannah Ord of Rawden near Leeds Spinster
both Thomas and Mary Anne Ord deaths are recorded in The Annual Monitor, so they remained Quakers.
Newspaper notices
The Blackburn Standard Wed. May 10 1848
Same day (Thursday last), at the Friend's Meeting House, Preston, Thomas Ord to Mary Anne, only daughter of John Wilcockson, all of Preston.
All the following from The Preston Guardian
Feb 14 1852
On Wednesday last, Michael Satterthwaite, only son of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 2 years
Feb 21 1852
On Monday last, Ellen, eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 3 years
March 22 1856
On Thursday last, very suddenly, Mary Esther, youngest daughter of Mr. Thomas Ord, currier, of this town, aged 12 months.
Jan 28 1871
On the 24th instant, at the Park, Fuelwood, Mr. Thomas Ord, leather merchant, aged 48 years.
census 1851
9 Friargate Preston
Thos Ord 29 Leather cutter born Durham, Darlington
Mary Anne 27 born Preston
Ellen 2 " "
Michael Satterthwaite 1 " "
Elizh Hill 32 servant
Alice Tipping 11 servant
1861
9 Friargate Preston
Thomas Ord 39 Currier master 44 men & 2 boys born Darlington
Mary A 37 born Preston
Sarah J 9 " "
John H 8 " "
Clement 2 " "
Johanna Dilworth 24 servant
Catherine Etherington 21 servant
1871
Watling St. Fulwood Preston Broughton
Mary Anne Ord 47 annuitant born Preston
Sarah Jane 19 " " "
John Henry 18 leather dealers assistant "
William Edward 8 " "
Jane Clarke 24 servant
I am not sure about Sarah Jane - she is on Lancs BMD births as
1851 Sarah Jane Ord (Preston)(Ord)
Is it a mistake in indexing?
1871
Lancaster
Clement Ord 12 boarder scholar born Preston with other scholars under George Aldridge 29 schoolmaster
1881
Ackworth
Clement Ord 22 student born Preston
probate 1940
£10,019 10s 1d
Clement Ord of Athehey Ga? All Saints road, Clifton Bristol died 20 Oct 1939
probate to Rudolf Ord leather merchant
Bernhard Ort fellow of Kings College Cambridge
William Henry Satterthwaite, solicitor
death reg. Clement Ord (1859) DecQ 1939 age 80 Bristol
Cambridge University Alumni
Clement Ord d. 20 Oct 1939 entered Michs. 1881 Matric Non-Coll Michs. 1881 (son of Thomas, of Fulwood, Preston) Schools - Preston Grammar, Friends' School Lancaster, Hitching School. Flounder's Inst, Ackworth. Migrated to King's Jan 26 1882 Exhibitioner 1883, BA 1884, MA 1888. Assistant Master at Hitching school 1875-9, In Germany 1886-91, Assistant Lecturer in German, University College Bristol 1895-1902, Lecturer 1902- 9, Head of German Dept. Bristol University 1909-25.
Wednesday 20 March 2019
Hall-marriages
RG6/1019
1686
John Willcockson did take to wife Darothy Hall in a meetting at her father John Halls house in Morridg in the presence of the Lord and in an assembly of his people being many witnesses upon the 25th of the second month called Aprill.
RG6/1036
Whereas John Hall jun of Winkhillound? in the County of Stafford and Jane Smith of Pornnall ?
fee in the County of Chester spinster
twenty fexth? tenth month 1688
witnesses include
John Hall Sen. (father)
and Ann Hall (sister)
(as this marriage was held in Cheshire I have not copied out the full list only the Hall names)
RG6/1357
First 11 month 95
For Leeke Meeting I understand that David Hall and Sarah Botham have acquainted you with there intention to marriage. This is to certify unto you that if you approve of it I shall be willing. John Hall
David Hall of Cheadle Grange in the County of Stafford and Sarah Botham of Orpsford? in the said county
fifth day eleventh month called January 1695
house of John Mellor at Whitehough
witnesses
John Hall Junior (brother)
John Rowley?
John Taylor
John Mellor
Charles Carnoll?
Jonathan Buxton
Cornelius Bowman
Matthew Grindor
Richard Armitt
Georg Howorth?
John ap John
John Taylor
Ann Botham
Dorothy Buxton
Phoebe Mellar
Hester Bowman
Hannah Fallowfield
Ann Taylor
Jane Botham
Mary Taylor
Mary Janney
Mary Chapman
James Taylor
RG6/1031
David Hall of Gasworth in the County of Chester Yeoman?
and Mary Hatton of Hatton in the said County of Chester spinster
twenty-seventh day of the eleventh month called January 1731
public meeting place at Frandley in Cheshire
witnesses include
John Hall
Joseph Hall
James Strech
Samuel Strech
RG6/1357
James Stretch the younger of Buglawton, Parish of Asbury, County of Chester, husbandman
and Mary Hall of Tillisworth, Parish of Leek, County of Stafford, spinster
sixteenth day Fift month called July 1728
meeting house at Leek
witnesses
Benjamin Leay
William Wolf
John ?alland
John Toft Jun
Charles Broadley
William Read
Joseph Davison
John Toft
??? Toft
Ann Bloor
Phebe Bloor
Martha Toft
Lettice Toft
Ann Henshaw
Anne Ferne
Frances Henshaw
Hester Bagnall
James Stretch
Esther Stretch
Joseph Stretch
John Stretch
Isaac Stretch
Samuel Stretch
Ann Stretch
David Hall
John Hall
Ann Hall
John Botham
Joseph Dale
John Rewley?
Peter Dale
Small Stretch of Buglawton, Parish of Asbury, County of Chester, husbandman
Ann Hall of Tillisworth, Parish of Leek, County of Stafford, spinster
twentieth day of ye first mo. called March 1728
meeting house at Leek
witnesses
Jo. Davison
Wm Nicolls
Rd Terns?
J Shellern
Jon Falland
Rob ???
???? Toft
Jos. Toft
???????? Phoebe Bloor
Jon Botham
Hanna Buxton
Sarah Haynes
Eli Rowley
Lettice Toft
Margt Lucas
??ana Toft
David Hall
Mary Stretch
John Hall
Mary Stretch
Joseph Hall
Ann Stretch
Esther Hall
John Rowly
Sarah Rowly
John Stretch
Joseph Stretch
Peter Stretch
Isaac Stretch
Ann Stretch
James Stretch
James Stretch
John Stretch
1686
John Willcockson did take to wife Darothy Hall in a meetting at her father John Halls house in Morridg in the presence of the Lord and in an assembly of his people being many witnesses upon the 25th of the second month called Aprill.
RG6/1036
Whereas John Hall jun of Winkhillound? in the County of Stafford and Jane Smith of Pornnall ?
fee in the County of Chester spinster
twenty fexth? tenth month 1688
witnesses include
John Hall Sen. (father)
and Ann Hall (sister)
(as this marriage was held in Cheshire I have not copied out the full list only the Hall names)
RG6/1357
First 11 month 95
For Leeke Meeting I understand that David Hall and Sarah Botham have acquainted you with there intention to marriage. This is to certify unto you that if you approve of it I shall be willing. John Hall
David Hall of Cheadle Grange in the County of Stafford and Sarah Botham of Orpsford? in the said county
fifth day eleventh month called January 1695
house of John Mellor at Whitehough
witnesses
John Hall Junior (brother)
John Rowley?
John Taylor
John Mellor
Charles Carnoll?
Jonathan Buxton
Cornelius Bowman
Matthew Grindor
Richard Armitt
Georg Howorth?
John ap John
John Taylor
Ann Botham
Dorothy Buxton
Phoebe Mellar
Hester Bowman
Hannah Fallowfield
Ann Taylor
Jane Botham
Mary Taylor
Mary Janney
Mary Chapman
James Taylor
RG6/1031
David Hall of Gasworth in the County of Chester Yeoman?
and Mary Hatton of Hatton in the said County of Chester spinster
twenty-seventh day of the eleventh month called January 1731
public meeting place at Frandley in Cheshire
witnesses include
John Hall
Joseph Hall
James Strech
Samuel Strech
RG6/1357
James Stretch the younger of Buglawton, Parish of Asbury, County of Chester, husbandman
and Mary Hall of Tillisworth, Parish of Leek, County of Stafford, spinster
sixteenth day Fift month called July 1728
meeting house at Leek
witnesses
Benjamin Leay
William Wolf
John ?alland
John Toft Jun
Charles Broadley
William Read
Joseph Davison
John Toft
??? Toft
Ann Bloor
Phebe Bloor
Martha Toft
Lettice Toft
Ann Henshaw
Anne Ferne
Frances Henshaw
Hester Bagnall
James Stretch
Esther Stretch
Joseph Stretch
John Stretch
Isaac Stretch
Samuel Stretch
Ann Stretch
David Hall
John Hall
Ann Hall
John Botham
Joseph Dale
John Rewley?
Peter Dale
Small Stretch of Buglawton, Parish of Asbury, County of Chester, husbandman
Ann Hall of Tillisworth, Parish of Leek, County of Stafford, spinster
twentieth day of ye first mo. called March 1728
meeting house at Leek
witnesses
Jo. Davison
Wm Nicolls
Rd Terns?
J Shellern
Jon Falland
Rob ???
???? Toft
Jos. Toft
???????? Phoebe Bloor
Jon Botham
Hanna Buxton
Sarah Haynes
Eli Rowley
Lettice Toft
Margt Lucas
??ana Toft
David Hall
Mary Stretch
John Hall
Mary Stretch
Joseph Hall
Ann Stretch
Esther Hall
John Rowly
Sarah Rowly
John Stretch
Joseph Stretch
Peter Stretch
Isaac Stretch
Ann Stretch
James Stretch
James Stretch
John Stretch
Monday 18 March 2019
Sources for the Hall family 1
We do not have a marriage for John Hall and Ann.
In the Quaker records we find the births of their children.
On Ancestry both copies of the registers are labelled RG6/1654.
An earlier version appears to have ink stains all over and explains why some parts of dates are missing. A latter copy has been made, and it is that one (because it is easier to read) that I have used. Some of the pages have been filmed twice as part of the pages are dark and difficult to read. There are 88 images in all and I have indicated which image by (?/88).
This is a transcript not made with all the due care and intention that it should have been. So I do not claim it to be 100% accurate. Why have I bothered noting all entries up to 1700? Well I am especially interested in Quakers in the 17th century. This should give us information about the number and location of quaker families in the same area.
Red entries belong on the Hall tree.
I had assumed spilt ink was the reason why the dates were obscured, checking this document I discovered the real reason :
(50/88)
In pursuance of a minute of the Yearly Meeting held in London in the year 1827 addressed to the several Quarterly Meetings of Friends directing them to examine into the state of their respective Registers of Marriages, Births & Burials & to endeavour to have them carefully preserved.
The Records of this County were collected together for that purpose & the ancient Register of Births, having been inadvertently placed on a shelf were jars of preserves were kept, the Fermentation of some of them penetrating thro the cover of the Book, discharged the writing in the manner it now appears.
The annexed Copy was made out with some labour to assist those who may hereafter have to refer to the original.
Leek 14th of 2nd month 1828. Toft Chorley
..............................................................
Beside those entries of particular interest, I have merely extracted year of birth, name, (parents) and location where given. I freely admit I am not very good at reading old writing.
(51/88)
1651 Mathew Dayl (Mathew + Alic) Rudyard Parish of Leeke
1653 Andrew Dayl (as above)
1656 Sarah Dayl (as above)
1655 Dorothy Hall Daughter of John Hall + Ann his wife of Morrige in the parish of Ipstons was borne the second day of the twelfth month commonly called Febuarey.
1658 Margery Hall Daughter of John Hall and Ann his wife of Moridg in the parish of Ipstons .....
day of the first month.
1658 Richard Bowman (.....+Alie) Oslenfield?
1659 Joshua Dayle
1661 Nathaniel Carrington Wetton
1661 Elner Bowman Oslenfield
1661 John Hall son of John Hall of Moorage in the parish of Ipstons......of the month....comly called......
(53/88)
1662 Ann Davenport
166..............
1663 Dannell Dayl (Randale + Esther) Tyesworth? Parish of Leek
1663 Mathew Bowman (Henry + Alie)
1663 Dorothy Carington (Samuel + Ann) Wetton
1664 Enock Yardly (William + Jane) Deary House, Parish of Horton
1664 David Buxton (Symone + Ellen) Bullerton?
1665 David Hall son of John Hall + Ann his wife of Morridg in the parish of Ipstons was borne the twentyeigth Day of the Second month commonly called Aprill
1665 Hester Bowman (Henry+Alic) Ostenfield?
1665 James Davenport (William + Ann) fould, Parish of Leek
1666 Cornelius Bowman (Henry + Alic) Osterfield?
(54/88)
1667 Thomas Dayl (Randal+Ester) Tylesworth Parish of Leek
1667 William Yardly (William+Jane) Deary House, Horton
1667 Hester Hallowfield (William+Hester)
1667 Ann Hall Daughter of John Hall and Ann his wife of marriage in the Parish of Ipstons was borne the sevententh Day of the ninth month commonly called November
1667 Martha Carington (Samuel + ...) Wetton
1667 Mathew Buxton (Symone+Ellen) Butterton
1669 Ann Bowman (Henry+Alic)Ostenfield
1669 Phyby Carington (Saml+...)Wetton
1670 Hannah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
1670 Thomas Yardly (William+Jane) Dearey House Parish Horton
1670 John Buxton (Symone+Ellen) Butterton
(56/88)
1670.........Corden son of James Corden + Ann his wife of Morridg in the parish of Ipston was borne the twentysevent day of the eight month comonly called October
1670 Peter Strich (John+Elnor) Harpers Yate, Parish of Horton
1670 Susanna Boore daughter of Job Boore + Jane his wife of Morridge in the parish of Ipstons was borne the ninth of the twelfth month commonly called November
1670 Hannah Boddely (John+Jane) Knutton? Parish of ...stanton?
1671 Sarah Dayle (Josiah+Sarah)
1671 Alic Bowman (Henry+Alic)Oslenfield
1672 Randall Dayl (Randal+Hester) Telsworth? Parish of Leeke
1672 Hester Hall Daughter of John Hall + Ann his wife of marriage in the parish of Ipston was borne the twentyfourth day of the fourth month comly called June
1672 John Frost? (William) no name of mother
1672 Liddia Boddily (John+Jane) Knutton, parish Wolsenton?
(57/88)
1672 Johnothon Buxton (Simon+Ellen) Butleston Parish of Ipstones
1673 John Boore son of Job Boore+Dorathy of Marriage in the parish of Pistons was born the eigth day of the fifth month comonly called July
1673 Hannah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
we called her Hannah because my first died
1673 Sarah Dayl (Mathew+Joan) parish of Presburey
1674 William Yardly (William+Jane) Deary House Parish of Horton
1674 Margaret Dayl (Mathew+Jone) parish of Presburey
1675 Mathew Dayl (Mathew+Jone)Banke parish of Cheddelton
1676 William Fallowfield (Wm+Hester)
1676 Joshua Dayl (......+Sarah) Helswood?End
1677 Martha Dayl (Mathew +Jone) Banke, parish of Cheddelton
(59/88)
1677 Antony Brunly (William+Sarah) Bouthes? Parish of Ipstones
1678 Daniel Boore (Job+Jone) Parke House, Parish of Leeke
1678 John Hammersly (Thomas+Ann) Basford, Parish of Cheedeton
1678 Sarah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
1678 Josiah Dayl (Matthew+...) Banke, parish of Cheedelton?
1679 Samuell Boore (Job+Jone)Oncote, Parish of Leeke
1679 Marey Tayler (John+Marey) of Sharpcliff? parish of Ipstones
1680 Jann? Doyle (Jossiah+Sarah) Hallswood? End
1680 Susanah Dayle (Mathew+Jone) Banke, parish of Cheddelton
(60/88)
1680 Sarah Hammersley (Thomas+Ann) Basford, parish of Cheddelton
1681 ?
1681 ?
1682 John Whitaker (John+Hannah) Gratton, Parish of Horton
(inserted John Stretch(Samuel+Mary))
1683 Thomas Hammersley (Thomas+Ann) Basford, Parish of Cheddelton
1682/3 Sarah Heawood (WIlliam+Elizabeth) Parish of Leeke
1683 Elizabeth Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Shalford born at Basford
1684 Samuel Stretch (Samuel+Mary) Leek
1684 Cosinett Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Shalford born at Leek
1684/5 Thomas Whittakers (John+Hanah) Gratton
1685 William Stretch (James+Anne) fold in Leek Fryth?
1686 Hannah Whittakers (John+Hanah) Gratton
(61/88)
1686 Josiah? Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Leek
Hugh Ford of Dodwnfieldside not bringing in the Births of his children in cause as the were born gave occasion to have them Registered all together thus (Ellen)
1679 William
1681 Hugh
1683 John
1685 Elizabeth
these 2 next not being brought in their place were forced to be put here viz
1683 ? (Richard+Sunson) Keele
1685 ? (William Heawood) Keel
1686 Thomas Ford (Hugh+Ellen)
(63/88)
1686 Mathew Dale (Joshua+Mary) Rudyard
1687 Joseph Stretch(Samuel+Mary)Leek
These 4 children of Mathew Dale+Joan his wife were neglected to be brough in & so were forced to be put by themselves after this manner
1682 Mary Dale
1684 Jone Dale
1686 Ales Dale
1687 Hannah
1687 Anne the Daughter of John Willcockson and Dorothy his wife was born on the 28th day of the second month
(65/88)
1688 John Willcookson son of John Willcockson and Dorothy his wife was borne the 24th Day of the 9th mo
1688 Ester Bowman (Henry+Rebeca)
1690 Dorothy Willcocson second daughter of John Willcocson and Dorothy his wife was borne the 28th Day of the 1st month
1690 Jess Stretch (Samuel+Mary)
1690 John Hall son of John Hall + Jane his wife was borne the ---- of the 10th month
1690 Ester Buckley (Thomas+Joyce)
no date John Bowman (Henry+Rebeca)
1689 Peter Dale (Joshua+Mary)
1691 Phebe Dale
1691 Elizabeth Mellor (John+Phebe)
1691 Isaac Willcockson second son of John Willcookson and Dorathy his wife was borne the 15th day of the 11th mo
1692 Henry Bowman (Henry+Rebecca)
1692 ------Buckeley daughter (Thomas+Joyce)
(66/88)
In the Quaker records we find the births of their children.
On Ancestry both copies of the registers are labelled RG6/1654.
An earlier version appears to have ink stains all over and explains why some parts of dates are missing. A latter copy has been made, and it is that one (because it is easier to read) that I have used. Some of the pages have been filmed twice as part of the pages are dark and difficult to read. There are 88 images in all and I have indicated which image by (?/88).
This is a transcript not made with all the due care and intention that it should have been. So I do not claim it to be 100% accurate. Why have I bothered noting all entries up to 1700? Well I am especially interested in Quakers in the 17th century. This should give us information about the number and location of quaker families in the same area.
Red entries belong on the Hall tree.
I had assumed spilt ink was the reason why the dates were obscured, checking this document I discovered the real reason :
(50/88)
In pursuance of a minute of the Yearly Meeting held in London in the year 1827 addressed to the several Quarterly Meetings of Friends directing them to examine into the state of their respective Registers of Marriages, Births & Burials & to endeavour to have them carefully preserved.
The Records of this County were collected together for that purpose & the ancient Register of Births, having been inadvertently placed on a shelf were jars of preserves were kept, the Fermentation of some of them penetrating thro the cover of the Book, discharged the writing in the manner it now appears.
The annexed Copy was made out with some labour to assist those who may hereafter have to refer to the original.
Leek 14th of 2nd month 1828. Toft Chorley
..............................................................
Beside those entries of particular interest, I have merely extracted year of birth, name, (parents) and location where given. I freely admit I am not very good at reading old writing.
(51/88)
1651 Mathew Dayl (Mathew + Alic) Rudyard Parish of Leeke
1653 Andrew Dayl (as above)
1656 Sarah Dayl (as above)
1655 Dorothy Hall Daughter of John Hall + Ann his wife of Morrige in the parish of Ipstons was borne the second day of the twelfth month commonly called Febuarey.
1658 Margery Hall Daughter of John Hall and Ann his wife of Moridg in the parish of Ipstons .....
day of the first month.
1658 Richard Bowman (.....+Alie) Oslenfield?
1659 Joshua Dayle
1661 Nathaniel Carrington Wetton
1661 Elner Bowman Oslenfield
1661 John Hall son of John Hall of Moorage in the parish of Ipstons......of the month....comly called......
(53/88)
1662 Ann Davenport
166..............
1663 Dannell Dayl (Randale + Esther) Tyesworth? Parish of Leek
1663 Mathew Bowman (Henry + Alie)
1663 Dorothy Carington (Samuel + Ann) Wetton
1664 Enock Yardly (William + Jane) Deary House, Parish of Horton
1664 David Buxton (Symone + Ellen) Bullerton?
1665 David Hall son of John Hall + Ann his wife of Morridg in the parish of Ipstons was borne the twentyeigth Day of the Second month commonly called Aprill
1665 Hester Bowman (Henry+Alic) Ostenfield?
1665 James Davenport (William + Ann) fould, Parish of Leek
1666 Cornelius Bowman (Henry + Alic) Osterfield?
(54/88)
1667 Thomas Dayl (Randal+Ester) Tylesworth Parish of Leek
1667 William Yardly (William+Jane) Deary House, Horton
1667 Hester Hallowfield (William+Hester)
1667 Ann Hall Daughter of John Hall and Ann his wife of marriage in the Parish of Ipstons was borne the sevententh Day of the ninth month commonly called November
1667 Martha Carington (Samuel + ...) Wetton
1667 Mathew Buxton (Symone+Ellen) Butterton
1669 Ann Bowman (Henry+Alic)Ostenfield
1669 Phyby Carington (Saml+...)Wetton
1670 Hannah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
1670 Thomas Yardly (William+Jane) Dearey House Parish Horton
1670 John Buxton (Symone+Ellen) Butterton
(56/88)
1670.........Corden son of James Corden + Ann his wife of Morridg in the parish of Ipston was borne the twentysevent day of the eight month comonly called October
1670 Peter Strich (John+Elnor) Harpers Yate, Parish of Horton
1670 Susanna Boore daughter of Job Boore + Jane his wife of Morridge in the parish of Ipstons was borne the ninth of the twelfth month commonly called November
1670 Hannah Boddely (John+Jane) Knutton? Parish of ...stanton?
1671 Sarah Dayle (Josiah+Sarah)
1671 Alic Bowman (Henry+Alic)Oslenfield
1672 Randall Dayl (Randal+Hester) Telsworth? Parish of Leeke
1672 Hester Hall Daughter of John Hall + Ann his wife of marriage in the parish of Ipston was borne the twentyfourth day of the fourth month comly called June
1672 John Frost? (William) no name of mother
1672 Liddia Boddily (John+Jane) Knutton, parish Wolsenton?
(57/88)
1672 Johnothon Buxton (Simon+Ellen) Butleston Parish of Ipstones
1673 John Boore son of Job Boore+Dorathy of Marriage in the parish of Pistons was born the eigth day of the fifth month comonly called July
1673 Hannah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
we called her Hannah because my first died
1673 Sarah Dayl (Mathew+Joan) parish of Presburey
1674 William Yardly (William+Jane) Deary House Parish of Horton
1674 Margaret Dayl (Mathew+Jone) parish of Presburey
1675 Mathew Dayl (Mathew+Jone)Banke parish of Cheddelton
1676 William Fallowfield (Wm+Hester)
1676 Joshua Dayl (......+Sarah) Helswood?End
1677 Martha Dayl (Mathew +Jone) Banke, parish of Cheddelton
(59/88)
1677 Antony Brunly (William+Sarah) Bouthes? Parish of Ipstones
1678 Daniel Boore (Job+Jone) Parke House, Parish of Leeke
1678 John Hammersly (Thomas+Ann) Basford, Parish of Cheedeton
1678 Sarah Fallowfield (William+Hester) Leek
1678 Josiah Dayl (Matthew+...) Banke, parish of Cheedelton?
1679 Samuell Boore (Job+Jone)Oncote, Parish of Leeke
1679 Marey Tayler (John+Marey) of Sharpcliff? parish of Ipstones
1680 Jann? Doyle (Jossiah+Sarah) Hallswood? End
1680 Susanah Dayle (Mathew+Jone) Banke, parish of Cheddelton
(60/88)
1680 Sarah Hammersley (Thomas+Ann) Basford, parish of Cheddelton
1681 ?
1681 ?
1682 John Whitaker (John+Hannah) Gratton, Parish of Horton
(inserted John Stretch(Samuel+Mary))
1683 Thomas Hammersley (Thomas+Ann) Basford, Parish of Cheddelton
1682/3 Sarah Heawood (WIlliam+Elizabeth) Parish of Leeke
1683 Elizabeth Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Shalford born at Basford
1684 Samuel Stretch (Samuel+Mary) Leek
1684 Cosinett Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Shalford born at Leek
1684/5 Thomas Whittakers (John+Hanah) Gratton
1685 William Stretch (James+Anne) fold in Leek Fryth?
1686 Hannah Whittakers (John+Hanah) Gratton
(61/88)
1686 Josiah? Woolwich (Thomas+Sarah) Leek
Hugh Ford of Dodwnfieldside not bringing in the Births of his children in cause as the were born gave occasion to have them Registered all together thus (Ellen)
1679 William
1681 Hugh
1683 John
1685 Elizabeth
these 2 next not being brought in their place were forced to be put here viz
1683 ? (Richard+Sunson) Keele
1685 ? (William Heawood) Keel
1686 Thomas Ford (Hugh+Ellen)
(63/88)
1686 Mathew Dale (Joshua+Mary) Rudyard
1687 Joseph Stretch(Samuel+Mary)Leek
These 4 children of Mathew Dale+Joan his wife were neglected to be brough in & so were forced to be put by themselves after this manner
1682 Mary Dale
1684 Jone Dale
1686 Ales Dale
1687 Hannah
1687 Anne the Daughter of John Willcockson and Dorothy his wife was born on the 28th day of the second month
(65/88)
1688 John Willcookson son of John Willcockson and Dorothy his wife was borne the 24th Day of the 9th mo
1688 Ester Bowman (Henry+Rebeca)
1690 Dorothy Willcocson second daughter of John Willcocson and Dorothy his wife was borne the 28th Day of the 1st month
1690 Jess Stretch (Samuel+Mary)
1690 John Hall son of John Hall + Jane his wife was borne the ---- of the 10th month
1690 Ester Buckley (Thomas+Joyce)
no date John Bowman (Henry+Rebeca)
1689 Peter Dale (Joshua+Mary)
1691 Phebe Dale
1691 Elizabeth Mellor (John+Phebe)
1691 Isaac Willcockson second son of John Willcookson and Dorathy his wife was borne the 15th day of the 11th mo
1692 Henry Bowman (Henry+Rebecca)
1692 ------Buckeley daughter (Thomas+Joyce)
(66/88)
Sunday 17 March 2019
Outline of our Hall family.
Its been a while since I posted anything. I suppose I have been going through a crisis of confidence. In tandem with a crisis of confidence in the present world, what is the truth? I have come to realise that many of my beliefs about history have been built on the shaky foundations of a flawed education, my uncritical acceptance of anything in print, and prejudice nurtured by culture and society. I have been questioning the value of history. A painful journey - is it worth it? and why have I only just come to this conclusion? My poor little brain finds the absorbtion of information much harder than when I was younger. I also work at a much much slower pace. So apologies in advance if I don't make sense. Most of my energies at the moment are directed at trying to build up a historical framework rather than family history.
However, I have been inspired by Celia to look again at the Hall family. May I say here, that I respect and admire Celia in working so hard on research into our families. I should like to thank her again for her generosity in sharing freely her research.
.........................................................
Hall is such a common name as to make it a difficult one to research.
I am not claiming that the following is completely correct, and I put it here so people can make their own minds up. It is in no way complete, but it is what I feel happy at the moment to put on my tree.
.........................................................
First a simple outline, then I will post sources.
......................................................
John Hall married Ann
they had the following 6 children
Dorothy Hall
Margery Hall
John Hall
David Hall
Ann Hall
Hester Hall
.........................................................
of these children
Dorothy Hall married John Wilcockson
they had the following 6 children
Ann Wilcockson
John Wilcockson
Dorothy Wilcockson
Isaac Wilcockson
George Wilcockson
David Wilcockson
John Hall married Jane Smith
they had the following 8 children
John Hall
Jane Hall
David Hall
Martha Hall
Joseph Hall
Thomas Hall
William Hall
William Hall
David Hall married Sarah Botham
they had the following 6 children
David Hall
John Hall
Joseph Hall
Mary Hall
Ann Hall
Esther Hall
.................................................
Red shows the descent for the Lancashire Wilcocksons.
Blue is the Wilcockson that went to America.
Purple is the line that links to the Stretch family.
..................................................
John and Ann Hall lived in North Staffordshire and were early converts to the Quakers.
All around that area were many Hall families. Parish records are incomplete. At the moment it is not possible to say what Ann's maiden name was nor which families they belonged to.
(Celia tells us that John Wilcockson was in Staffordshire MM until 1711 and from then BreachMM)
John Wilcockson, from Derbyshire became a Quaker and married Dorothy. Their children were born in Staffordshire but they moved back to Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire after 1700?
As far as I have traced son John Hall, some of his children were registered in the Quaker records but then they were baptised indicating that the family were no longer Quakers.
Son David Hall remained a Quaker in Staffordshire.
However, I have been inspired by Celia to look again at the Hall family. May I say here, that I respect and admire Celia in working so hard on research into our families. I should like to thank her again for her generosity in sharing freely her research.
.........................................................
Hall is such a common name as to make it a difficult one to research.
I am not claiming that the following is completely correct, and I put it here so people can make their own minds up. It is in no way complete, but it is what I feel happy at the moment to put on my tree.
.........................................................
First a simple outline, then I will post sources.
......................................................
John Hall married Ann
they had the following 6 children
Dorothy Hall
Margery Hall
John Hall
David Hall
Ann Hall
Hester Hall
.........................................................
of these children
Dorothy Hall married John Wilcockson
they had the following 6 children
Ann Wilcockson
John Wilcockson
Dorothy Wilcockson
Isaac Wilcockson
George Wilcockson
David Wilcockson
John Hall married Jane Smith
they had the following 8 children
John Hall
Jane Hall
David Hall
Martha Hall
Joseph Hall
Thomas Hall
William Hall
William Hall
David Hall married Sarah Botham
they had the following 6 children
David Hall
John Hall
Joseph Hall
Mary Hall
Ann Hall
Esther Hall
.................................................
Red shows the descent for the Lancashire Wilcocksons.
Blue is the Wilcockson that went to America.
Purple is the line that links to the Stretch family.
..................................................
John and Ann Hall lived in North Staffordshire and were early converts to the Quakers.
All around that area were many Hall families. Parish records are incomplete. At the moment it is not possible to say what Ann's maiden name was nor which families they belonged to.
(Celia tells us that John Wilcockson was in Staffordshire MM until 1711 and from then BreachMM)
John Wilcockson, from Derbyshire became a Quaker and married Dorothy. Their children were born in Staffordshire but they moved back to Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire after 1700?
As far as I have traced son John Hall, some of his children were registered in the Quaker records but then they were baptised indicating that the family were no longer Quakers.
Son David Hall remained a Quaker in Staffordshire.
Thursday 18 August 2016
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